creation

  • two articles, and something even better

    Here is an interesting article called "The War Against Girls", a good book review of "Unnatural Selection" by Mara Hvistendahl.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303657404576361691165631366.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read#printMode

    Here's an excerpt:

    "Despite the author's intentions, "Unnatural Selection" might be one of the most
    consequential books ever written in the campaign against abortion. It is aimed,
    like a heat-seeking missile, against the entire intellectual framework of
    "choice." For if "choice" is the moral imperative guiding abortion, then there
    is no way to take a stand against "gendercide." Aborting a baby because she is a
    girl is no different from aborting a baby because she has Down syndrome or
    because the mother's "mental health" requires it. Choice is choice."

     

    Here is another interesting article called "The Search for the Historical Adam".

    http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/article_print.html?id=92509

    It summarizes the state of the continuing controversy about whether God created the human race directly in the persons of Adam and Eve, or whether God "used evolution" over millions of years to bring us to where we are today.  The same compromises and arguments are occurring, with the theistic evolutionists / progressive creationists / old-earthers saying "it really doesn't matter" and the rest of us Bible-believers saying "it really does matter."

    The article is unfortunately biased toward the theistic evolution point of view, but it does spotlight the incredible pressures in the intellectual spheres in the creation/evolution discussion these days.

    Great quote from Tim Keller -

    "[Paul] most definitely wanted to teach us that Adam and Eve were real historical figures. When you refuse to take a biblical author literally when he clearly wants you to do so, you have moved away from the traditional understanding of the biblical authority.  If Adam doesn't exist, Paul's whole argument - that both sin and grace work 'covenantally' - falls apart. You can't say that 'Paul was a man of his time' but we can accept his basic teaching about Adam. If you don't believe what he believes about Adam, you are denying the core of Paul's teaching."

     

    And finally, a closing quote from the most awesome book of all, the Bible... Ephesians 1:3-12.   I see so many of my nonChristian friends inwardly hungry for significance (especially men) or for love (especially women), all day long... vainly seeking in this or that activity or place.  If only they could know and experience our great God!  ...the God who loves us fiercely, beyond measure, and will never stop loving us, and Who has called us to true, eternal, significance through being adopted by Him:

    "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory."

     

  • some thoughts on value

    This weekend I happened to be at an amusement park, where crowds of thousands of people milled by... pushing strollers, eating ice-cream cones, screaming on roller coasters, engaging in pda, teasing their siblings.  Kids were amazed at all the bright colors / flashing lights / blaring sounds; parents were tired by it all.  Tourists diligently snapped pictures and bought souvenirs.  Some parents were involved with their kids, others seemed preoccupied with other worries.

    One could easily get numbed by the sameness of all the people passing by... the same clothes... the same body shapes... the same facial expressions... the same activities... the same screams every time the coaster cars passed the same place on the track...

    But two things stood out to me.  First, according to Jesus (speaking to His disciples), "...the very hairs of your head are all numbered."   Every hair, on every single person!   Not one of those thousands of 'generic people' were generic to God.   He dreamed up each man and each woman, and knew their every thought and action, before they were born.  Each one was completely unique upon closer inspection... unique histories, desires, likes, dislikes, and loves.

    Second, after contemplating the value of each person (far higher than my tired/numbed gaze originally gave credit) and the vast number of such people (in such a tiny part of the whole big world), I began thinking about the value of their Creator.   How could one man, Jesus Christ, be intrinsically worth so much more than all of us combined?   He would have looked like an ordinary man, to his peers 2000 years ago.  But if the Bible is correct, He was no ordinary man.   He was instead the Creator and Designer of all the billions of every-hair-numbered/every-thought-foreknown humans running around on earth.

    How does one measure value?  And by any standard, does not Jesus Christ break the scale?

    Finances - gold? silver? platinum? paper money?  All such atoms in the universe were created by Christ.  God owns it all, and loans out small quantities to us, whether we are grateful to Him for it or not.

    Livestock?  God designed and created all the animals and watches over each one.

      " 10"For every beast of the forest is Mine,
    The cattle on a thousand hills.
    11"I know every bird of the mountains,
    And everything that moves in the field is Mine.
    12"If I were hungry I would not tell you,
    For the world is Mine, and all it contains."   Psalm 50

    Real estate? Land?  God made it all.  He spoke it into existence in a couple days' work.

    Knowledge?  In Christ are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

    Power?  There is no comparison between any human and Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, who splits oceans to provide a path for his people to walk through, stills the storm and waves with a couple words, turns the hearts of kings like water in the hand, and rises from the dead after he is killed.

    Wittiness?  Hilarity?  Coolness?  Popularity?  Humor?  Attractiveness?  Life-of-the-party-ness?  God invented all such people.

    Physical pleasure?  Lemonade?  Chocolate?  Sex?  Frisbee?  Root beer floats?  Dopamine?  All designed by God.

    Beauty?   Think of the 50 most handsome or beautiful people you know.  God designed them all.  The most stunning waterfall or sunset?  Again, God designed it.  And those who have seen Him report extreme beauty, which lasts forever rather than fading after a few years, and which truly satisfies, unlike any earthly beauty.

     

    I am currently unable to fully clarify my thoughts on this, but this has been an index to them.   Four closing considerations:

     

    Daniel 7
    9"I kept looking
    Until thrones were set up,
    And the Ancient of Days took His seat;
    His vesture was like white snow
    And the hair of His head like pure wool
    His throne was ablaze with flames,
    Its wheels were a burning fire.
    10"A river of fire was flowing
    And coming out from before Him;
    Thousands upon thousands were attending Him,
    And myriads upon myriads were standing before Him;
    The court sat,
    And the books were opened.
    ...
    13"I kept looking in the night visions,
    And behold, with the clouds of heaven
    One like a Son of Man was coming,
    And He came up to the Ancient of Days
    And was presented before Him.
    14"And to Him was given dominion,
    Glory and a kingdom,
    That all the peoples, nations and men of every language
    Might serve Him
    His dominion is an everlasting dominion
    Which will not pass away;
    And His kingdom is one
    Which will not be destroyed.

    Revelation 21
    1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.
    2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
    3And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,
    4and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away."
    5And He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." And He said, "Write, for these words are faithful and true."
    6Then He said to me, "It is done I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost.
    7"He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.
    8"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

    Matthew 13:44
    "The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found and hid again; and from joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field."

    Lamentations 3:24
    "The LORD is my portion," says my soul, "Therefore I have hope in Him."

  • "...don't tell the creationists..."

    John Horgan recently said on his blog at Scientific American magazine that secular scientists still have no good theory for how life could arise from non-living chemicals.  "Don't tell the creationists," he says!  (as if we aren't fully aware...)   The main contenders for abiogenesis theories these days are self-catalyzing RNA molecules (whose problems Horgan lists, and Stephen Meyer enumerates in his book "Signature in the Cell"), and "Panspermia", the idea that life on earth must have come from somewhere else in the universe.  Panspermia merely pushes the problem somewhere else, of course.

    Horgan tries to claim that his naturalistic approach is more "honest", however.  Here's a quote:

    "Creationists are no doubt thrilled that origin-of-life research has reached such an impasse..., but they shouldn't be. Their explanations suffer from the same flaw: What created the divine Creator? And at least scientists are making an honest effort to solve life's mystery instead of blaming it all on God."

    If the divine Creator God had a beginning, then yes, He would need a cause.  But since He is eternal and never had a beginning, He needed no cause.

    A naturalist might say, "You believe in an eternal God, I believe in an eternal universe.  We both believe in something eternal, but at least I can see the universe, whereas I can't see God.  My position is more rational because I'm building my beliefs on the available observable evidence."

    There are three problems with this.  First, according to observable scientific principles such as the laws of thermodynamics, all the matter/energy in closed systems is constantly moving into a less-usable state (higher entropy).  So if the universe was really eternal, it would have already come to a "heat death", a cold, homogenized "stew" of molecules evenly distributed everywhere.  The fact that there's still lots of usable energy around (e.g. the stars) indicates that it had a beginning, some finite time ago.  (Someone might postulate a constantly exploding-and-contracting universe that has been 'reborn' an infinite number of times every few billion years with no loss of energy...  but how "observable" would that theory be?!?  That's about as observable and rational as postulating that an invisible 'Flying Spaghetti Monster' created the universe! :)

    Second, which Cause better explains the world we see around us?  If all life arose from nonliving chemicals, then morality is merely an illusion, as are also consciousness, choice, love, and rational thought itself.  Furthermore, are all design inferences inherently "dishonest", as Horgan seems to imply?  Suppose I found a scrap of paper stuck under my front door one day, with the following text: "Dear Tim, I think you're cute. Signed, a secret admirer."   I could attribute this object to three types of causes (or a mixture) - necessity, chance, or design. 

    • "Necessity" would be, for example, a secret miniature printing press buried behind a trap door in my wall which stealthily swung into action in the middle of the night and stamped out such a note every few years, inserting it beneath the doorstep before lapsing into hibernation again.  That would explain the paper, but the chain of causality would next move to "where did the printing press (a more complicated object than the note) come from?"
    • "Chance" would be, for example, the hypothesis that the wind just so happened to blow a pencil and a scrap of blank paper out of the trash dump on the other side of the city, and just so happened to rub the pencil against the paper as they tumbled down the street, and just so happened to form legible english letters and words which created a coherent set of sentences, and just so happened to insert the paper under my front door during the night.   Is it possible?  Sure.  What's the probability?   A lot bigger than the probability that one self-replicating cell would form by chance...
    • "Design" would be the hypothesis that some unknown "intelligent agent" wrote and delivered the note.

    If I inferred design, would that be a "dishonest" inference?  Would it be irrational?  Would it be "unscientific"?  Would Horgan say, "No no no, you must keep trying to think up a way that it could have happened by chance!  You must keep making an honest effort to solve the mystery of the note's origin by postulating non-intelligent causes, rather than blaming it all on some unknown intelligent agent!"

    Third, there is indeed real-world evidence for the existence of the Biblical God.   Jesus of Nazareth was born at the prophesied time and place, performed miracles and taught about (and in accordance with) the God of the Old Testament, was killed, and then raised to life again and was seen by hundreds of people.   While God is currently invisible, He has provided ample historical evidence of His existence and character to those who take the time to investigate...

     

  • Will God send people to Hell?

    Will God send people to Hell?

    I came across this interesting blog post tonight, about "why we need God's wrath" - http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/02/26/to-hell-with-hell/

    Besides the reasons Kevin DeYoung mentions, one other huge reason which is discussed in Glenn Miller's article here ( http://christianthinktank.com/whyjust.html ) is simply that God is love, and He keeps His promises.

    When you love someone (with Biblical "agape" love), by definition it means you care about that person and seek their best interest.   If something threatens to harm that beloved person, you are immediately automatically opposed to whatever that thing is.  That thing becomes your enemy.

    Thus, true love automatically includes a willingness to fight against anything that would hurt the beloved.

    Here is a lengthy excellent quote from Glenn Miller's article, quoting many Scriptures and then one comment of his at the bottom.

    [begin quote from Glenn Miller's article] -

    One: God's justice (relative to punishing evil with the stated consequences) is generally related to God's anger, wrath, or "hatred" in the Bible. Although God is often caricatured as being belligerent, quick-to-anger (instead of slow to anger), easily upset about the most trivial matters, and petty in His demands to avoid His wrath, perhaps it would be helpful to survey briefly the explicit statements of what He actually "hates". Consider a few passages:

      • How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?' 31 "You shall not behave thus toward the Lord your God, for every abominable act which the Lord hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. (Deut 12)
      • The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, And the one who loves violence His soul hates.(Ps 11.5)
      • There are six things which the Lord hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers .(Prov 6.16ff)
      • Says the Lord. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams, And the fat of fed cattle. And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs, or goats. 12 "When you come to appear before Me, Who requires of you this trampling of My courts? 13 "Bring your worthless offerings no longer, Incense is an abomination to Me. New moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies-I cannot endure iniquity and the solemn assembly. 14 "I hate your new moon festivals and your appointed feasts, They have become a burden to Me. I am weary of bearing them. 15 "So when you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide My eyes from you, Yes, even though you multiply prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are covered with blood. 16 "Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight. Cease to do evil, 17 Learn to do good; Seek justice, Reprove the ruthless; Defend the orphan, Plead for the widow (Is 1)
      • "For I, the LORD, love justice; I hate robbery and iniquity. (Is 61.8)
      • I hate, I reject your festivals, Nor do I delight in your solemn assemblies. 22 "Even though you offer up to Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings, I will not accept them; And I will not even look at the peace offerings of your fatlings. 23 "Take away from Me the noise of your songs; I will not even listen to the sound of your harps. 24 "But let justice roll down like waters And righteousness like an ever-flowing stream. (Amos 5.21)
      • These are the things which you should do: speak the truth to one another; judge with truth and judgment for peace in your gates. 17 'Also let none of you devise evil in your heart against another, and do not love perjury; for all these are what I hate,' declares the Lord." (Zech 8.16)
      • Take heed then, to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth. 16 "For I hate divorce," says the Lord, the God of Israel, "and him who covers his garment with wrong," says the Lord of hosts. "So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously." (Mal 2.15)
      • Then say to the household of the king of Judah, 'Hear the word of the Lord,O house of David, thus says the Lord: 12 "Administer justice every morning; And deliver the person who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor That My wrath may not go forth like fire And burn with none to extinguish it, Because of the evil of their deeds. (Jer 21.11)
      • Then the word of the Lord came to Zechariah saying, 9 "Thus has the Lord of hosts said, 'Dispense true justice, and practice kindness and compassion each to his brother; 10 and do not oppress the widow or the orphan, the stranger or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.' 11 "But they refused to pay attention, and turned a stubborn shoulder and stopped their ears from hearing. 12 "And they made their hearts like flint so that they could not hear the law and the words which the Lord of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets; therefore great wrath came from the Lord of hosts. 13 "And it came about that just as He called and they would not listen, so they called and I would not listen," says the Lord of hosts; 14 "but I scattered them with a storm wind among all the nations whom they have not known. Thus the land is desolated behind them, so that no one went back and forth, for they made the pleasant land desolate." (Zech 7.8ff)

    Can you see the pattern here?!

    God hates treachery, violence, cruelty, callused hypocrisy-things that knowingly (not accidentally) destroy people, community, safety, trust, joy, innocence, and beauty. This is not minor ritual 'infractions' nor petty stuff! The human race simply cannot exist without large amounts of decency, loyalty, and social justice.

    Ever authentic human being should scream in outrage at crimes against the elderly, at vandalism of the poor, at oppression of the disadvantaged, at domestic violence, at greed and power-oriented oppression and marginalization, at child abuse (and at the child sacrifice of the false religions Israel adopted from her neighbors!), at institutional hypocrisy that remains arrogantly insensitive to the real needs of real people...Moral outrage by moral agents (us) at moral atrocities is a mark of moral authenticity-why would we expect the Author of moral agents to be 'less moral' than we?

    ...

    If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent. (Matt 12.7)

    God is passionate about people, especially the innocent and "little" ones. His cry to us to show mercy instead of religious routine should (1) reveal His passionate heart; and (2) reveal the coldness of our own...This is no ad hoc religious rule we are discussing here-it is the very passion of God for people.

    ...

     Outrage and lament are the proper, sensitive, and morally appropriate responses to injury and oppression.

    I suspect that "forgiveness" of moral injury, if not preceded by moral outrage or confrontation over the unjust injury, is nothing more than selfish apathy, insensitivity to the rights and worth of the victim(s), or fear of confronting the oppressor/treachery...

    [end quote from Glenn Miller's article]

    Very well said.

  • book reviews

    Here are some recently read books with a short blurb/synopsis, in case you might be interested in reading them too.   My previous set of reviews was September 12, 2009 if you want to read more (use the "Posting Calendar" link at the lower left side of this page).

     

    - Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus, Volume 1, by Michael Brown - great book... addresses a lot of "I couldn't possibly consider Jesus my Messiah, because I'm Jewish, my whole family is Jewish, etc" and "Didn't Christians persecute the Jews for thousands of years?" type questions.  There are an amazing amount of carefully cited references... great resource!  There are three more volumes... I look forward to reading them...

    - Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome by John Sanford - Excellent book.  Thanks to Rich for giving it to me!  The gist is that random mutations are slowly destroying the human genome, little by little, inexorably, and neodarwinian evolution (natural selection + random mutation) is not only unable to create new genetic information, but unable even to maintain our current genome.  This implies that our genome was originally created essentially perfect by an Intelligent Designer, some thousands of years ago.  The book needs some editing to make it a little less redundant, and the pictures are a little corny (sometimes he seems to be aiming for a lay audience, and sometimes for a scientific audience), but overall the points he makes are excellent.

    - The Future of Justification, a response to N.T.Wright - by John Piper - great book... closely written theological rebuttal to NT Wright's New Perspective on Paul.  Piper does a good job of showing why justification is God's "forensic"/legal "writing us down NOW as if we're innocent", and how this individual forgiveness-of-sins is the heart of the gospel.   (as opposed to the NPP heresy, which teaches (similar to the RCC) that justification is God's eschatological pronouncement at the end of time that we are "in the covenant community", based on the good works that we've done during our lives through His enabling(/"infusing") power).

    - Overcoming Sin and Temptation - by John Owen (new edition by Kelly Kapic/Justin Taylor) - Excellent book!  Deep reading, difficult old english, but great thoughts on putting to death sin by the power of the Holy Spirit.  Overall summary: (1) It is extremely important to be putting sin to death in our lives... "be killing sin or it will be killing you". (2) the ONLY way to kill it is by the power of the Holy Spirit, not by accountability partners, or more Bible reading, or setting rules for oneself, or telling oneself "I'm better than that", or self denial or self-flagellation, or any other type of human-power-based approach to attempting to make oneself more righteous.

    - Evolution: greatest hoax on earth - by Jonathan Safarti - All of Safarti's books are worth reading.  This one dissects Richard Dawkins' latest book "Evolution: the greatest show on earth" which claims to present the most powerful and up-to-date evidence in favor of evolution.  Safarti's book carefully goes through Dawkins' claims and dispassionately blows each one out of the water.  It is a "polemical" book, but a rational, evenhanded polemic overall.

    - Head, Heart, and Hands - by Dennis Hollinger - Thanks to Tom for lending me this book.  Hollinger makes the point that some Christians are wired to be more "head" (intellectual)-oriented, others "heart" (emotional)-oriented, and others "hands" (practical, gift of helps, social-justice/soup-kitchens/etc)-oriented.  He makes the point that all aspects are necessary, and we need to understand our own selves and be willing to grow in the other two areas.

    - The Edge of Evolution - by Michael Behe (a RCC biology prof who believes in common-descent of man and apes, and in an old earth, but not that darwinian evolution can explain all of it) - fascinating in-depth look at what (darwinian) evolution can and can't do, using the specific examples of malaria and sickle-cell anemia resistance to malaria.  Pro: Behe is an expert on this subject, and also tries to make it accessible... he well demonstrates his point that evolution can make small destructive changes to genetic information that sometimes confer "resistance" to a particular disease, but it cannot cross the multiple-improbable-step gap to create new biological features and innovations and genetic information.  It's a little difficult to get through all the biology - I made it about halfway and then stopped for a while.

    - Signature in the Cell, by Stephen Meyer - great book!  It's basically about how evolution has no plausible way to create novel genetic information (in our DNA).  Meyer reviews all the theories and shows how they don't work (and contradict each other).  The only reasonable explanation is intelligent design...   The only downside to this book is that it's so long!  If it could be shortened, it would be better.

     

    What interesting books have you been reading lately?

  • Earthly things, Heavenly things

    Have you heard about the controversy about Genesis and inerrancy that has recently involved the Biologos group and Al Mohler?

    It started when Al Mohler gave a talk entitled "Why does the universe look so old?".
    In the speech, he in passing criticized the Biologos Foundation and its blog contributors for disbelieving and teaching others to disbelieve the textually evident six-24-hour-day creation week of Genesis 1.  Then Biologos contributers Darrell Falk and Karl Giberson and Peter Enns wrote responses to Al Mohler.  The dialogue is rather shocking, as Giberson and Enns showcase the deliberate rejection first of contextually-honest interpretation of Genesis, then of Biblical inerrancy itself.

    The Biologos folks are saying in essence: The Bible has some mistakes in some areas (like science), but that's not a problem because we can still learn from the rest.
    In the words of Peter Enns, "I do not think I am honoring Scripture by expecting it to reflect modern questions that were simply not on the mind of ancient Israelites. It seems to me that you [Mohler] may be expecting Genesis 1 to do something it was not intended to do, namely reflect factual information that would answer the sorts of questions we have today."

    Of course this distinction between "factual" truth versus some other kind of truth is unnecessary and dangerous.  As Jesus said in John 3, "If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?"

    Albert Mohler wrote an initial response here, and here is another trenchant critique by Lita Cosner.

    I think it's great that Al Mohler is challenging the Biologos folks about their teaching that the Bible contains mistakes.  Below, I'd like to (1) excerpt a couple highlights from Mohler's speech, and then comment on two areas:  (2) the actual content of the Biologos folks' argument, and (3) the devious and borderline fallacious language tricks that the Biologos folks tend to employ in their rhetoric.
    1. First, here are some excerpts from Al Mohler's original speech:

    "It’s not just panic amongst the cultural elites in the secular world however. It is also panic among the theologians. There is the warning from Professor Waltke, that if we do not get with the program we will be marginalized as a cult. There are the warnings of people like Peter Enns, the website BioLogos - a movement started by Francis Collins, now the director of the National Institutes of Health under President Obama, formerly the head of the Human Genome Project, the author of the book The Language of God in which he makes his own argument that, unless we get with the program, we are going to be intellectually marginalized. And Francis Collins makes the point made by so many others that we will actually lose credibility sharing the Gospel of Christ if we do not shed ourselves of the anti-intellectualism, which is judged to be ours by the elite if we do not accept the theory of evolution....
    "Kenton Sparks writing on that website suggests that, intellectually, evangelicalism has painted itself into a corner - that we have put ourselves into an intellectual cul-de-sac with our understanding of biblical inerrancy. He suggests that the Bible indeed should be recognized as containing historical, theological and moral error. Peter Enns, one of the most frequent contributors to the site, suggests that we have to come to the understanding that, when it comes to many of the scientific claims, historical claims, the writers of scriptures were plainly wrong.
    "Karl Giberson, Eastern Nazarene University, says this: "clearly the historicity of Adam and Eve and their fall from grace are hard to reconcile with natural history." He says this, "One could believe for example that at some point... in evolutionary history God ‘chose’ two people from a group of evolving humans, gave them his image, and put them in Eden, which they promptly corrupted by sinning. But this solution is unsatisfactory, artificial, and certainly not what the writer of Genesis intended.""
    "That’s not said by someone who’s defending the book of Genesis, but rather the theory of evolution, and trying to remove the possibility of the very kinds of things that some who identify themselves as evangelicals are trying to claim. An old earth understanding is very difficult to reconcile with a historical Adam as presented not only in terms of Genesis, but in terms of Romans. It requires an arbitrary claim that God created Adam as a special act of his creation and it entangles a good many difficulties in terms of both exegeses and a redemptive historical understanding of scripture."
    "It is not fair to say that an old earth position cannot hold to a historical Adam. It is to say that it cannot hold to a historical Adam without arbitrary intellectual moves and very costly theological entanglements. It is to say that this position seems to be at an insoluble collision with the redemptive historical narrative of the Gospel. The cost to the Christian church, in terms of ignoring this question or abandoning the discussion, is just too high. The cost of confronting this question is also costly. It can be very expensive because it can create intensity and conflict and controversy but I would suggest that the avoidance of this will be at the cost of our own credibility.

     

     

    2. Now let's look at the specific arguments presented by the Biologos contributors.

    a. The Biologos people say that Biblical interpretation has been wrong about scientific matters before, and has needed outside help from scientific observations to correct the natural/straightforward meaning of the text.

    Example quote:
    Let us suppose that the viewpoint you champion-General Revelation cannot trump Special revelation-had guided Christianity from its inception. The natural reading of Psalms 93 is that the earth is fixed and cannot be moved. Indeed this was thrown at Galileo and got him in trouble for proposing an "unbiblical" astronomy. The natural reading of the Biblical references to slavery is that it is OK and I am sure, Dr. Mohler, as a leader of the Southern Baptists, that you are painfully aware of how enthusiastically your predecessors defended the institution of slavery on biblical grounds. And I am sure you take pride in how hard your contemporaries have worked to distance themselves from that history. The natural reading of the creation of the moon in Genesis is that it is a light, similar to the sun, and not just a big rock. Is there not a long list of examples where General Revelation has forced us to set aside Special Revelation?
    http://biologos.org/blog/how-should-biologos-respond-to-dr-albert-mohlers-critique-karls-response

    Ok, each of these are separate examples.  The slavery example does not seem relevant to the science debate.  On the moon, Genesis nowhere says that it was "not just a big rock".  Genesis merely calls the moon a "light", which it obviously is.  Genesis 1 -
     14Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;
    15and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so.
    16God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.
    17God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth,
    18and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness;

    On Galileo, others have shown that the main controversy was not science versus the Bible, but one scientific theory versus another.
    http://creation.com/galileo-geocentrism-and-joshuas-long-day-questions-and-answers

    Does the Scripture clearly teach a geocentric solar system?  Not at all.  For example, regarding Psalm 93:1-2 which say
        1The LORD reigns, He is clothed with majesty;
    The LORD has clothed and girded Himself with strength;
    Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved.
    2Your throne is established from of old;
    You are from everlasting.

    consider this comment from http://creation.com/id-theorist-blunders-on-bible-response-to-dembski

    "Dembski should read the verse in context. The next verse says, ‘[God’s] throne is established of old’, where the same word kôn is also translated ‘established’. And the same Hebrew word for ‘moved’ (môt) is used in Psalm 16:8, ‘I shall not be moved.’ Surely, even Dembski wouldn’t accuse the Bible of teaching that the Psalmist was rooted to one spot! He meant that he would not stray from the path that God had set for him. So the earth ‘cannot be moved’ can also mean that it will not stray from the precise orbital and rotational pattern God has set (‘firmly established’) for it.
    ...the Psalms are poetic books, so we should generally expect figurative language and be very careful before concluding that a particular verse is literal. Psalms have the defining characteristic of Hebrew poetry, which is not rhyme or metre, but parallelism. That is, the statements in two or more consecutive lines are related in some way: saying something, then saying it again in a different way. Or saying one thing then saying the opposite. So the parallelism in Psalm 93 clearly shows the reader that the verse Dembski cites should not be taken literally.
    Conversely, Genesis is straightforward historical narrative. This should be obvious, because it has all the grammatical features of Hebrew narrative, e.g. the first verb (in Genesis 1:1) is a qatal (historic perfect), and the verbs that move the narrative forward are wayyiqtols (waw consecutives); it contains many ‘accusative particles’ that mark the objects of verbs; and terms are often carefully defined."

     

    Enns tries again: "The biblical authors, along with all ancient peoples, assumed the earth was stationary and that the sun moved. Would that not require us to do likewise?"

    Unfortunately, Enns misses the crucial distinction between assuming that the authors believed something, versus observing that the Bible (the authors' actual written output) states something.  How does Enns know that the author of Genesis believed that the sun revolved around the earth?  He assumes this, based only on writings from other ancient civilizations like the Babylonians and Egyptians.  But does the Bible actually teach that the sun revolved around the earth?  No.  So Enns' argument does not have any substance.

    As an example of Enns' fallacious reasoning, let me apply his technique against his own beliefs.  Imagine if I were to say, "Peter Enns is a member of the Biologos group, which is associated with Francis Collins.  Francis Collins is on record as supporting certain types of human embyronic stem cell research.  Human embyronic stem cells come only from abortions.  Therefore, we see that Peter Enns is a supporter of abortion.  Now, how could we possibly trust anything written about Genesis by someone who supports abortion?  Enns is only trying to get us to support abortion ourselves!"   This building of a specious case based on presumptive unstated beliefs is what Enns is trying to do in his point excerpted above.

    So Giberson's and Enns' point about Galileo seems superficially convincing, but upon examining the details, it becomes evident that the Bible does not teach the supposed "scientific errors" that they claim it does.  The Bible does, however, directly teach that the world was created in six days, and indirectly that it was created only a few thousand years ago.
    b. The Biologos people say that science is SO clear about the age of the earth, that there is ZERO doubt about it, and so any suggestion that the earth is only a few thousand years old simply MUST be wrong.

    Example quote:
    Most scientists consider the age of the earth to be almost as well-established as its shape. Just as “flat earthism” cannot be taken seriously any longer, neither can “young earthism,” and I wonder if you really want Christians to “vote science off the island,” for that is what you have to do to preserve the young earth claim.

    Giberson points specifically to the problem of starlight: how could light from stars millions of light-years away reach the earth in only thousands of years?  Even stellar events like supernovae and other things are seen.  If God created the light 'in-transit' but these events didn't actually happen, then God would seem to be deceiving mankind.

    Actually however, there are several good astronomical theories that explain how distant light could reach the earth in only thousands of years.  For example, the Humphreys/Hartnett models propose that the Milky Way and the Earth are located in the approximate center of the universe, and that gravitational time dilation explains why distant stars and starlight has "aged more" than life here on earth, especially during Creation Day 4.  Time dilation is a well-known phenomena that has been experimentally proven.  There are even effects like the Pioneer anomaly which are best explained using these young earth creationist models.

    So it is clear that "science" has not given an unequivocal answer regarding the age of the earth.  Some tests indicate old ages, while many others indicate young ages, perfectly in line with the Bible.  The scientific evidence and theories continue to develop, but the Bible's account remains literally accurate.

    Other scientific tests methods as radioactive dating and counting varves or ice cores have been shown to be inaccurate in many scenarios and in several events whose ages are precisely known.  For more info:
    http://creation.com/young-age-of-the-earth-universe-qa
    http://creation.com/radiometric-dating-questions-and-answers
    http://creation.com/fossils-questions-and-answers

     

    c. The Biologos people say that Genesis 1-2 cannot be literal because Gen 1:1-2 assume a "preexistent watery chaos" which God then "tamed."

    As to the "preexistence" of the water, the verse right before Genesis 1:2 says that "God created the heavens and the earth".  Thus it is stated that God created everything (including the waters), and then verse 2 "zooms in" and "picks up the story" from that first moment (1:1) to the creation of the sea/sky distinction.

    I agree with Enns that God is indeed portrayed as taming the seas, as is later poetically described in Job and other places.  But this does not mean that God did not create the world in six days as He specifically said in Genesis 1-2.  Just because Francis Scott Key wrote a nice rhyming poem about "rockets' red glare" and a flag proudly waving in "dawn's early light" doesn't mean that the battle at Fort McHenry on September 14th 1814 didn't happen.  History doesn't have to jettison accuracy when it alludes to grand themes.   There is historical accuracy, theological significance, and poetic beauty, in the way God describes His creation in Genesis 1-2.  Neither excludes the others.  For more on this, see this article on the framework theory.

     

    d. The Biologos people say that Genesis 1-2 cannot be literal because Gen 1:7 teaches the existence of a hard "firmament" which "held back" the "waters above."

    As explained elsewhere, Genesis 1:7 does not teach this at all.

     

    e. The Biologos people say that "days" mentioned before the creation of the sun indicates a non-literal Genesis 1-2.

    But this is obviously a weak argument.  "...all it takes to have a day-night cycle is a rotating Earth and light coming from one direction."

     

     
    3. The rhetoric of the Biologos group

    Here are some examples of rhetorical phrases from the Biologos group that are borderline fallacious, or especially doctrinally egregrious.
    Where does one draw the line that marks that place where one has *left evangelical Christianity*? Whose view of that line should we recognize?

    This is a 'straw man' argument... It seems to me that the real question is about truth, not denominationalism and demarcation.  The real question is: "How did God create the world?"  not,  "What is the minimum set of beliefs one has to believe to be called an 'Evangelical Christian'?"
    Did God form a literal first-man 'Adam' directly from dust on Day 6 and breathe into his nostrils the breath of life?  Or did He pick some particular hominid from some tribe of half-monkeys after millions of years of evolutionary survival-of-the-fittest and suddenly bequeath to him some socio-theological awareness?  Is the Bible sufficiently clear to decide between these competing explanations?
    As another example of why Falk's rhetoric is problematic, consider those who deny the Virgin Birth of Jesus Christ.  Are we to wrestle with "where to draw the line" doctrinally on that issue?  Or do we simply point out that those who deny such doctrines are contradicting the Bible?  Who cares whether someone who denies parts of the Bible is called an "Evangelical" or a "Theistic Evolutionist" or a "Flubberdeemoo"?  Labels and lines are not the point.  The point is whether one is accurately interpreting and believing the Bible.
    The BioLogos Foundation exists in order that the Church, especially the Evangelical Church, can come to *peace* with the scientific data...

    Falk tries to uses "peace" vs "war" imagery...  i.e., he tries to paint believers in a literal Genesis as "warring" against "scientific data".  But actually, as one sifts the data from the interpretations, one discovers that there is plenty of scientific data that supports a young earth.  And one could just as easily say that the Biologos people are the ones "warring" against the traditional interpretation of Genesis 1.  We need to pray that they would come to peace with the literal interpretation of Genesis 1, the interpretation favored by Jesus, Moses, Paul, etc.
    My most general question would have to be whether this really matters as much as you say. It seems to me that you are making a theological mountain out of an exegetical molehill, but I suspect we should just agree to disagree about that.

    If Giberson really believed this, then why would he and his colleagues spend so many pages defending their position?   If one looks back at previous doctrinal controversies, such as the modernism/liberalism controversy of the early 1900's, one notices that all heretics say this.  They deny a particular truth from the Bible, then in the ruckus that arises, they try to paint themselves as indifferent to the issue.
    Many *faithful* Christians understand verses 1-2 this way, and they feel that they are honoring God’s Word by doing so.

    Notice that word "faithful".  This is the 'they're good people, how can they possibly be wrong' fallacy.  It is a sleight-of-hand intended to make it difficult to challenge these "faithful" Christians.  These are not just ordinary Christians.  These are "faithful" Christians.
    If you reply that these Christians are not "faithful" in the sense of accurately interpreting Genesis (i.e. they call it poetry when it is actually historical narrative), the sleight-of-hand accuses you of demeaning their character (they keep their promises, they pay their bills, they are nice to their neighbors, etc).
    This fits with the current tendency to use language about being a 'faithful witness' and being part of the 'community of faith', as opposed to truth, accuracy, and correct beliefs.  If one is a sincere and "faith-filled" person but one's faith is based on incorrect foundations, that faith can lead into grevious error.
    Also, notice that they "feel that they are honoring God's word" by allegorizing and mythologizing away the young-earth creationistic implications of Genesis 1-2.  How can one argue against a "feeling"?!
    However, it remains the case that truly honoring God's word involves accurate interpretation and belief.  Merely "feeling" that one is honoring God's word does not guarantee that one is actually honoring God's word.  As Jesus and Moses believed that Genesis 1-2 referred to literal days of creation, we can follow their example in correctly understanding the account.  (Exodus 20:11, Matthew 19:4)
    I realize you may disagree here, and maybe you have a way of seeing literal days where there is no sun. I disagree strongly but *that would not lead me to question your commitment to the Gospel*. Reading the days figuratively is not an act of spiritual rebellion, which you seem to suggest. It is a result of taking the text very seriously and faithfully, trying to discern from the text itself how best to read it.

    Enns here is attempting to take the moral high ground, by insinuating "If you were in my place I wouldn't be condemning you... therefore you are being less openminded and generous and tolerant than I am...  therefore your argument is wrong."  For starters, this is an ad-hominem argument - attacking the character of the person arguing with you does not constitute an argument substantiating one's position.
    Further, this is a straw-man argument, because Mohler did not question Enns' 'committment to the Gospel', but rather, his accuracy of Genesis 1 interpretation and his (un)belief in the inerrancy of the Scriptures.
    Enns is quite defensive here, feeling attacked (for some reason) about whether he has been "faithful" and "committed to the gospel".  Actually however, the issue he should simply admit to is his belief in the errancy of the Scriptures.  Enns obviously believes that the Bible has mistakes in it, and Mohler was simply pointing that out.  Enns should admit that, e.g. "Although I do believe the Bible contains some scientific mistakes, I continue to try to take the text very seriously and faithfully."   That way readers can understand that when he says "seriously and faithfully", he means, "unless I come across an 'error', in which case I am free to discount it."
    Christians have disagreed with Augustine, but it is hard to find someone who would warn others about him because of his views on Genesis 1. It was not a theological hill to die on.
    Also, although you are a Southern Baptist, I know you have great respect for the Reformed tradition. It is true that from Calvin, to the Westminster Assembly, to 19th century Princeton, and the Dutch Reformed tradition, many (not all) Reformed theologians understood the days of Genesis 1 to be "natural" days. But even then, they did not make it a point of Christian orthodoxy, as you seem to do.

    These are more examples of Enns trying to say that the interpretation of Genesis 1-2 is "unimportant", and not worth spending much energy arguing about.  Unfortunately for Enns, our origins and the origin of sin is extremely important for the entire rest of the Bible.  Furthermore, it is not surprising that Calvin et al did not spend a lot of time on the literalness of Genesis, because the whole controversy did not exist back then!  Darwin would not yet be born for another 250 years.  But in each era, certain issues are hotly attacked by heretics and liberals, and must be defended.  In Calvin's and Luther's era, heretics were teaching salvation by works.  Thus these men powerfully defended the Bible's teachings in this area.  Today, Genesis 1-2 is widely discounted as a mythological/spiritual/nonliteral account by people and entities such as Biologos, and so Mohler and others naturally have need to defend that particular section of the Bible.
    Flexibility of views and generosity of spirit concerning Genesis 1 are hardly unusual among committed Christians. It is not a slippery slope to unbelief but a humble way forward to discern what it means to read God’s Word faithfully. I do not think such flexibility or generosity are a mistake, as you seem to argue. Would you not, along with many thoughtful Christian thinkers of the past, allow diverse points of view to sit side-by-side for the benefit of Christian unity?

    Notice the overload of "positive words" here, as Enns tries to whitewash his 'spiritualizing' and 'mythologizing' Genesis 1-2.  "Flexibility" implicitly portrays orthodoxy as "rigid and unbending", "generosity" portrays orthodoxy as "stingy", "humble" portrays orthodoxy as "arrogant".   "Diverse viewpoints allowed to sit side-by-side for unity" is set up against the traditional belief that Genesis 1-2 actually refers to a literal event, just as it explicitly describes.  The words "committed" and "thoughtful" are used (as "faithful" above) as epithets to try to sneak some extra argumentative force into the discussion by citing the lifestyle of the Christians who believe in an allegorical/mythological Genesis 1-2, rather than putting the weight of the argument on actual reasons to treat Genesis that way.
    How can we demonstrate that the *heart of the Gospel message* has nothing to do with the age of the earth or how God chose to create life?

    What defines the 'heart of the Gospel message?'  Who defines it?  Does this mean we don't need to refute false Biblical teaching, as long as it doesn't compose whatever we consider the "heart of the gospel message"?
    Falk's question points to a kind of "least-common-denominator" doctrinal minimalism, in which each doctrine that the Bible teaches is free to be jettisoned, one by one, because it supposedly has nothing to do with the "heart of the gospel".
    On the contrary, the Bible is clear -
        Every word of God is tested;
    He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
    Do not add to His words
    Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.
      Proverbs 30:5-6

    "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19

    So then, what is the gospel message?
    "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures...." 1 Corinthians 15:3-4

    What does "according to the Scriptures" mean?  Surely it means that the Christ who was prophesied throughout the Old Testament was the One who came to fulfil 'all that the prophets had spoken' about Him, Jesus.  The first prophecy was given in Genesis 3:15, to Adam and Eve, the first two humans, who had just sinned the first sin.  According to Paul in Romans 5, as he is defining the heart of the gospel, "...through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin...."  Paul builds a repeated comparison between Adam and Jesus which would make no sense if Adam were not historical and if death did not arise until Adam's sin.

    In the same chapter that contains the oldest and most succinct creedal summary of the "heart of the gospel" in Scripture, we find it stated that Adam was "the first man" (1 Corinthians 15:45).  If we deny the latter, we will end up denying the former.  The literal accuracy of the Genesis account has everything to do with the heart of the gospel.

  • "convergence"

    Have you heard of the evolutionary term "convergence"?  It refers to the supposed arrival of multiple biological lineages to the same "body plan" through independent evolutionary histories.  The problem is that the main evidence for evolution is supposed to be the seamless "tree of life" in which body plans ("morphologies") gradually change into what comes next.  When an animal exhibits an organ extremely similar to another supposedly unrelated animal in the evolutionary "tree of life", instead of accepting that it is evidence against the theory of evolution, proponents simply say "it evolved more than once" and give it the name "convergence".

    This hilarious handwaving deserves much... um... scrutiny.   Here's a gem from recent Creation Safaris:

     

    In the land of Jabberwocky, a scientist named Niwrad came up with a theory of everything he called Galumph.  With frabjous joy, he investigated all the creatures of the borogoves with his apprentice, Ecallaw.  He found that the Jubjub birds had round eyes and the mome raths, though similar, have square eyes.  That’s because of Galumph, he explained.  The Bandersnatch and Jabberwock, though looking very different, both have round eyes.  “Galumph triumphs again!” Niwrad chortled.  “But how can that be?” burbled Ecallaw with uffish look.  “They are so very different in other respects.”  “Callooh! Callay!” exclaimed Niwrad frumiously.  “'Tis only to demonstrate the power of Galumph.  The former is a case of Parallel Galumph.  This one, a case of Convergent Galumph.  Do you see?  Galumph explains all.  We must away and tell Yelxuh, our mimsy publicist, to announce our scientific triumph to the townspeople!  We have slain the mystery of Jabberwock with Galumph.  Galumph has wiped the brillig from our slithy toves, and given us Enlightenment!”
        Convergence is about as meaningful and convincing an explanation as this.  If God exists, and if it were his intent to show the impossibility of evolution, he could hardly have done a better job than to show both unity and diversity of plants and animals, but with cross-branches linking unrelated lineages with similar traits.  It would simultaneously show a single Creator (instead of polytheism) and the impossibility these complex species and traits had emerged naturally from common ancestry.  As far as the differences between bat species, it is also much more plausible to explain by trait loss rather than by innovative gain of new complex systems.  Yet the Darwinists, intent on their naturalistic world view, have come up with a term like Galumph, called Convergence, to rescue their beliefs from the evidence.  To see the extent of their use of this rescuing device, look at Brett Miller’s partial list of incredible similarities between unrelated creatures in his essay,

    The Convergence Concoction.  Like his final cartoon shows, it’s so much easier for lazy scientists to say “It evolved!” than to consider the implications of the evidence.  Another resource on the explanatory flimflam being sold as Convergent Evolution can be found in this article on the Explore Evolution website, section II D.
        It can look impressive to see in scientific papers the amount of detailed work researchers perform to arrive at their Galumph explanations.  How could all these analytical tools like Bayesian analysis, software that generates phylogenetic trees out of genetic inputs, mathematical manipulations, inscrutable jargon, tables, charts and piles of supplemental data be misguided?  How can it be wrong when it feels so right?  But if the conclusion of this bridge over troubled water is “Galumph!  Stuff happens,” it doesn’t matter.  That’s a non-starter as an explanation.  And busy work is not science.  Undoubtedly one could find similar amounts of complex procedures and data manipulation in the textbooks on alchemy and astrology.  Couching the Stuff Happens Law (09/15/2008 commentary) in euphemisms does not produce understanding.
        By failing to include the top-down theories in their roster, they have failed to address the pool of possible explanations.  Regardless, this jabber about Convergence is not an explanation; it’s Jargonwocky masquerading as meaning.

     

     


  • murderer with aggression genes gets sentence cut

    This was an interesting article: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18098-murderer-with-aggression-genes-gets-sentence-cut.html

    Basically a convicted murderer had his prison sentence reduced because scientists found that the genetic code in his body contained a particular variant that was "linked to aggression" in other people who had the same genetic variant.

    This raises all sorts of interesting questions.  Are people's actions merely products of their genetics?  Are people's actions "deterministic" (they don't have any choice in their actions despite the "illusion of free will")?  If it is true that particular genetic variants are linked to particular temptations (alcoholism, gluttony, sexual immorality, homosexuality, etc), does the presence of the temptation excuse the sin?  Indeed, for naturalists, on what basis could one ever say that any act is "right" or "wrong"?  Thus, on what basis could a legitimate government (with laws and punishments for lawbreaking) ever be enacted in the first place?  Etc.

    How about this question - If one believes in natural selection ("survival of the fittest") and also that one's actions are determined by their genes, shouldn't one favor the Biblical Jewish-theocracy capital punishment for acts like murder, reasoning that such genes should be removed from the gene pool as quickly as possible?

    Of course, I don't believe that one's actions are determined by their genes.  But it seems that naturalists should consider the implications of their beliefs....

  • reactions to "House Church" book, etc

    A couple mini-posts today:

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    1.  I just finished reading "House Church" by Steven Atkerson.   Very fascinating and controversial book.   Highly recommended for provoking thought.

    I am wondering about various "church ministries" that exist today, and whether these would not be possible in a house church model, and which ministries would continue on unchanged, and whether if some ministries weren't possible if that would actually be a healthy thing somehow.

    Ministry examples:

    - Christian radio stations?  They'd probably be able to continue on unabated or with even better financial support

    - Christian camps?  Likewise.

    - Church choirs?  They would be replaced by other choirs, such as (Christian) school choirs, town choirs, etc.

    - Music lessons in general?  Probably still continuing on unabated.

    - Lengthy sermons that carefully and thoroughly expound a text?   Atkerson says that there is a separate place for "teaching meetings" for things like this, separate from the Lord's Supper fellowship/participation meetings that are the backbone and essence of "church."  But how would this work in practice?   On the plus side, "less teaching" might encourage the meditation and application of the smaller amount, just as in China they used to give out stones with a single Bible verse written on them to peasants, who would take the stone for a couple days or weeks and then swap.   On the negative side, Biblical illiteracy is already high in our churches... would reducing the external teaching exacerbate this?  But, it could be countered, the increase in shorter/participatory sermonettes might help to alleviate this...

    - Christian colleges? and schools?  I suppose these could continue on...  with their related research/excellence thrusts...

    - door to door evangelism groups?  These could continue...

    - organ playing?  handbell choirs?  The development of beautiful music for God's glory that relies on big, expensive instruments of these types?   This would likely cease...  yes?

     

    2. Thinking about Noah's flood and the decline in life spans from ~900 years down to ~120 years.  (cf. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2008/06/04/did-people-live-over-900-years  and John Sanford's book http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Entropy-Mystery-Genome-Sanford/dp/1599190028)

    The current creationist theories explain this through genetic bottlenecks (huge loss of genetic information from the healthy gene pool when 99.9% of the earth's population died in the Flood), which makes sense to me.

    Theologically, I find it interesting that humankind's evil tends to be magnified and amplified whenever many people are placed together in close proximity (e.g. the tower of Babel, and modern innercities), and that God specifically commanded that people spread out and fill the earth (i.e. go live in rural areas, instead of condensing into cities, at least until the earth was filled....) ... God sought to reduce the pain of the evil, until the end would come when He would remove it completely.

    Likewise, I think the same applies to Noah's Flood.   Why would God wipe them all out, while "never again" doing so throughout history, even though we are obviously just as evil?  One reason might be the lifespan issue.... when people are left to 'harden' in their sin for 900 years of life (as well as all their peers), perhaps the outcome is extremely horrible.   So God brought the flood to deliberately shorten our lives, out of mercy because our society would not get into the depths of evil that would otherwise occur.

    As Tim Keller points out, for redeemed perfect saints as we will someday be, the innercity will be the exact opposite... the close proximity of perfect saints to each other will form a 'critical mass' that will foment glory and beauty and white-hot pure love, and that's why the new Jerusalem will be a (cubical) city (rather than a Garden of Eden).
    3. A good wife is not 'snagged', but is a gratuitous/undeserved gift from God.

    Maybe other types of wife can be 'snagged', but not this type.
    4. Do babies go to heaven when they die?

    I'll delay this post because I don't have the time right now.  But I think it's a question worth pondering.

  • the spiritual brain

    Fellow Xangan Lance "FKIProfessor" posted a thorough review of the fascinating-sounding book "The Spiritual Brain". You can read his review here: http://www.xanga.com/FKIProfessor/632686621/the-spiritual-brain.html .

    The book seems to be a good example of the growing number of non-Christian non-materialist scientists.  I.e. they don't believe that we humans are just 'machines'; they believe there is a 'spiritual' aspect to us as well, but they do not believe in the Biblical portrayal of a personal God who created the world and who has related to us in the past, currently relates to us in some ways, and will be fully revealed to the whole world in glory at some point in the future.  As an example, it's interesting to note that the Dalai Lama (top Tibetan Buddhist leader) was invited to give the keynote address to the 30000 scientists present at the "Neuroscience" conference in 2005, about spirituality and the brain.

    One especially fascinating aspect of the book (from Lance's review; I haven't read it myself) is the discussion of the "God areas" of the brain.  I.e., there is some experimentation investigating areas of the brain which reportedly when electrically stimulated can produce 'out of body' experiences, mystical experiences, etc.  And the 'God gene' - the idea that some people are more susceptible than others to 'mystical experiences of God'.

    I would actually not be surprised if there really is an area of the human brain which is closely tied to mystical experiences, or even genetic components which enhance the function of this area.  But of course I don't think that that would rule out the existence of the human soul, any more than a team of researchers investigating a locked running car from underneath coming across a 'gas pedal rod' which revved the engine, could legitimately conclude that there was no longer any need to suppose that cars need 'drivers'.

    And this research really underscores for me that my faith in God through Jesus Christ is NOT based on subjective experiences.  I do not believe in Him (primarily) because I have "felt" God's presence (although I have) or experienced specific answers to prayer (although I have).  Rather, my faith in Him is based primarily on the evidence from history, especially the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.  If He really rose, and the evidence indicates that He did, then the God He preached about is real, regardless of whether I "feel" Him today or not.

    If you want to delve further, Glenn Miller's writings on this (e.g. http://www.christian-thinktank.com/sh6end.html) are very interesting.  He tends to be more 'subjectively oriented' than me about the basis for his faith, but he makes some interesting points (and certainly believes with me the 'objective' bases found in the historical record).

    What is your faith in God based upon?   What evidence for the reality of God do you have that you could not attribute to an "imaginary friend?"  Or if you do not believe in the God of the Bible, what do you think about my reasons for believing in Him?

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